Making Money Vs. Education?
Why Does the United States of America put a Dollar Value on Education when are schools, especially High Schools are among the worst
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It is not a question of dollar value but priorities. Education is just one of many needs that we would like to be met. So is health care, the under-privileged poor, the aged, roads and bridges, foreign aid, the military and the police. Any one of those concerns can tell stories that would break your heart; but the fact is that a Government, like an individual person, can't take care of everything to perfection. You have to pick and choose. Given our political system, you choose in favor of those who will re-elect you. Right now you have a left-wing administration which has traditionally been union-friendly. There might be a few more bucks thrown in the way of education, but they are likely to end up in the pockets of unionized teachers. Would that help you much?
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The United States hates education and has done all they can to destroy it! Look at Bush/Cheney; they'd put teachers to death if they thought they'd get away with it! Obama has a chance to make education a priority, but Americans hate it, so he won't. He'll be too busy paying the unions back for the $300 million they 'gave' him for the election!
Sunday, April 28, 2013
Sunday, April 14, 2013
Will Voters Rebuke President Obama and Mexico`s Attack on Democracy in Arizona and All the United States?
Will Voters Rebuke President Obama and Mexico`s Attack on Democracy in Arizona and All the United States?
Is speaking out and encouraging all Americans to speak out against President Obama's attack against Arizona's new immigration enforcement law, which is an attack on all Americans who want illegal aliens stopped and an attack on the self-governance of American citizens...wrong ? Obama is joining with the corrupt government of Mexico to attack Democracy in America and a popular state law which simply mirrors the Federal laws he swore an oath to enforce The public backlash against Obama's despotic behavior will manifest in the elections in historic proportions. Obama wants to take down Arizona and the efforts to restore the Rule of Law in America. Now it is time for Americans to politically take down Obama. The Arizona law actually has built in wording to not allow so called racial profiling and the Federal law has no such built in protection. Mexico needs to keep its citizens in Mexico and stay out of the USAs business. Spend all that money they are using to sue AZ on making Mexico a place for a "better life" for all its citizens and not just a wealthy few ..Mexico is not a poor nation as many try to pretend to justify the influx of illegal aliens into the USA. Isn't speaking out for this law and supporting it with our actions and dollars our right as legal Americans? The pro-illegal alien groups are speaking out against the law, as expected. If they are legal Americans that is also their right to do so. But illegal aliens and Mexico,s government do not have that right . Is it fear to expect the federal government to enforce the law ? Don't be foolish,you're minimizing the large scale affect that illegal aliens have on cities,states and the entire USA . The stock answers I expected from the illegal alien supporters. Ever hear of the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution ? It is Obama that is circumventing the Constitution not AZ. And how about the other states that already have this type of law in their cities and states. Why just attack AZ.What about the others ? Not enough potential voters to worry about
Immigration - 5 Answers
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Why is Arizona so afraid of people who only want to pick our lettuce and clean our hotel rooms?
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Nothing in the law violates any part of the Constitution of the United States. Arizona is being sued because Chairman Obama is upset at being embarrassed and proven totally ineffectual at doing his job of protecting America from invasion by illegals.Also they are afraid because the mexicans ( notice i didnt capitalize mexicans) are kidnapping children.
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Are you referring to AZ's attack on the Constitution?
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"Attack on Democracy" That's a republican talking point and complete bull shit as is the 'despotic behavior' nonsense. You've been listening to idiots like Michael Savage and Glenn Beck. They have a shtick designed to make them money and people like you have bought into it. Challenging the constitutionality of a state law is something the federal government does all the time. Obama hasn't challenged it with troops. They are asking a judge to decide the matter. On other words, the WH is following the rule of LAW.
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At first I did not care for our Commander and Chief. He grew on my a little. But I live in a border state and work in oil and gas drilling. If he doesn't do anything to stop the influx of illegals I will have to change my vote back to Republican ( Thumbs down all you want. We already know most of you Dem's are that petty. So I won't be shocked or cry myself to sleep tonight). I honestly gave the guy a fair shake and supported him as an American should and still do and will till his term or terms are up. But this is a huge problem . I am sick of seeing the social services that we as tax payers fund drained over and over again by people that are not entitled to it. These programs are for my fellow citizens that need it. That's why they were created . Not to supplement another countries failing and irresponsible economy and people . No other country in the world allows people the enter or leave it's borders undocumented. So why does the US have to. Cause the criminals themselves who already committed the crime of coming here illegally say we should just let them in and that they have rights? Sorry, You have no rights here. Now I understand that people just want a better life. And they do deserve it and should get it . But do like the rest of us and do it legally. To deny a person a better life would be a heinous crime it self. But we have to watch who we just let in. And must respect our economy and the burden it puts on everyone when we have to support than and pay for them to have babies they cant afford in the first place. If Obama wants my vote he needs to respect his own countries sovernty. This is a basic practice every other world leader has a grasp on . When he gets it and if he gets it he will have my vote.
Is speaking out and encouraging all Americans to speak out against President Obama's attack against Arizona's new immigration enforcement law, which is an attack on all Americans who want illegal aliens stopped and an attack on the self-governance of American citizens...wrong ? Obama is joining with the corrupt government of Mexico to attack Democracy in America and a popular state law which simply mirrors the Federal laws he swore an oath to enforce The public backlash against Obama's despotic behavior will manifest in the elections in historic proportions. Obama wants to take down Arizona and the efforts to restore the Rule of Law in America. Now it is time for Americans to politically take down Obama. The Arizona law actually has built in wording to not allow so called racial profiling and the Federal law has no such built in protection. Mexico needs to keep its citizens in Mexico and stay out of the USAs business. Spend all that money they are using to sue AZ on making Mexico a place for a "better life" for all its citizens and not just a wealthy few ..Mexico is not a poor nation as many try to pretend to justify the influx of illegal aliens into the USA. Isn't speaking out for this law and supporting it with our actions and dollars our right as legal Americans? The pro-illegal alien groups are speaking out against the law, as expected. If they are legal Americans that is also their right to do so. But illegal aliens and Mexico,s government do not have that right . Is it fear to expect the federal government to enforce the law ? Don't be foolish,you're minimizing the large scale affect that illegal aliens have on cities,states and the entire USA . The stock answers I expected from the illegal alien supporters. Ever hear of the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution ? It is Obama that is circumventing the Constitution not AZ. And how about the other states that already have this type of law in their cities and states. Why just attack AZ.What about the others ? Not enough potential voters to worry about
Immigration - 5 Answers
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Why is Arizona so afraid of people who only want to pick our lettuce and clean our hotel rooms?
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Nothing in the law violates any part of the Constitution of the United States. Arizona is being sued because Chairman Obama is upset at being embarrassed and proven totally ineffectual at doing his job of protecting America from invasion by illegals.Also they are afraid because the mexicans ( notice i didnt capitalize mexicans) are kidnapping children.
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Are you referring to AZ's attack on the Constitution?
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"Attack on Democracy" That's a republican talking point and complete bull shit as is the 'despotic behavior' nonsense. You've been listening to idiots like Michael Savage and Glenn Beck. They have a shtick designed to make them money and people like you have bought into it. Challenging the constitutionality of a state law is something the federal government does all the time. Obama hasn't challenged it with troops. They are asking a judge to decide the matter. On other words, the WH is following the rule of LAW.
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At first I did not care for our Commander and Chief. He grew on my a little. But I live in a border state and work in oil and gas drilling. If he doesn't do anything to stop the influx of illegals I will have to change my vote back to Republican ( Thumbs down all you want. We already know most of you Dem's are that petty. So I won't be shocked or cry myself to sleep tonight). I honestly gave the guy a fair shake and supported him as an American should and still do and will till his term or terms are up. But this is a huge problem . I am sick of seeing the social services that we as tax payers fund drained over and over again by people that are not entitled to it. These programs are for my fellow citizens that need it. That's why they were created . Not to supplement another countries failing and irresponsible economy and people . No other country in the world allows people the enter or leave it's borders undocumented. So why does the US have to. Cause the criminals themselves who already committed the crime of coming here illegally say we should just let them in and that they have rights? Sorry, You have no rights here. Now I understand that people just want a better life. And they do deserve it and should get it . But do like the rest of us and do it legally. To deny a person a better life would be a heinous crime it self. But we have to watch who we just let in. And must respect our economy and the burden it puts on everyone when we have to support than and pay for them to have babies they cant afford in the first place. If Obama wants my vote he needs to respect his own countries sovernty. This is a basic practice every other world leader has a grasp on . When he gets it and if he gets it he will have my vote.
Sunday, April 7, 2013
good plan to take over the United States and then the world?
good plan to take over the United States and then the world?
Who thinks this is an ingenious and fairly easy plan when you have the resources own everything from water supply to electricity to oil to run cars and other forms of transportation then establish a state of panic in the country make money problems then socialize health care and other services so only the government can treat illnesses and injuries attack our own nation to put fear in the people and show their helplessness and make an excuse to gradually take more and more liberties away so it seems the right thing to do for our own safety then blame the attack on the world leader in fossil fuels so we have a reason to basically train a military to take over another oil rich baring country ala (Iraq plans to invade Iran as soon as our troops leave) then move to another country (Afghanistan to invade Pakistan when we train their military) and do the same thing get the leaders in power in both countries that agree with our views and corrupt them for our own benefit then every war making the people that own our money supply richer and richer then in the end when we control our people's thoughts basically and control their necessities lets make ourselves a dictatorship so our greedy selves can rule the world and anyone who gets in our way will be destroyed systematically what do you think the people with billions and billions of dollars whom we really know nothing about are trying to do to us as we speak oh and we just happen to want anyone with nuclear weapons to give them to us so when they try to resist we'll wipe them off the face of this earth Satan is very alive and through this you should realize that we are more controlled than anyone ever should be how much longer do you think we will last in this world it's even told in the bible that soon there will be a one world government and that is when Satan will rule and that is also when the world will end. Oh haven't you heard how America is to be unified to Canada and Mexico by 2010? probably not because the way things are right now aren't bad enough to make a reason most people will believe in to do so why not just cause another attack that really puts fear in people to make a reason to have one currency (AMERO) how about the severe inflation of the current U.S. currency And yes a lot of people believe Obama is the antichrist and here's why In the bible it says we will have 7 years of tribulation before the antichrist gets into power and our nation had been at war for seven years when president obama was elected into office now since he's black if there is an assassination of him and he comes back somehow (Antichrist trying to prove he is equal to Jesus)/ then really prey oh and isn't the world supposedly going to end in 2012 and 2012 is the end of Obama's term
Politics - 9 Answers
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you could always just marry bill 'the rapist' clinton.
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You don't need a plan to take over the us just be black
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you got that right it sure is happening now.
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It has been prophesied in the Book of Revelations that God will come and save his people from the devil.
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for crying out loud not another NWO conspiracy nut
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Hold your faith dearly. Some day, I fear, we will have to live hard and think strong.
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The people who have laughed at the NWO crowed should not laugh to loud they are trying as we speak to create a world Government and that is no conspiracy it is fact...it will be a slow progression... to avoid riots and the like by the time you know it has happened it will be too late...
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Dude, you are right on as far as biblical prophecy. That is what the good book says. Isn't it ironic that Obama is full filling almost all of the requirements for the coming antichrist but the geographic area he comes from? Our freedoms are under assault. Maybe not to the extent of the scenario above, but all of us need to be on our guard, getting involved by contacting our representatives and putting voice to our displeasure, and embracing legal, peaceful activism when they refuse to listen. The only people to blame for the state of our country are the 65 million that voted for Obama. You get what you vote for!
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What you write is a scary scenario..but I am very hopeful that our nation will survive again...If you have a chance, read all you can about our President Woodrow Wilson and Progressivism...I wasn't aware, but Wilson almost had our country in a dictatorship? Go to scribd.com/Woodrow Wilson and you will be totally shocked at how close our government came to becoming a dictatorship. So, people have to start studying history or we will be destined to repeat it. We are in a difficult time now but I am very hopeful that someone will come along who is an honest conservative and restore our nation to the greatness it once had. I believe in being informed...the problem is that a great percentage of Americans have no idea of their past history. I am into reading about our history and it is extremely enlightening..It proves nothing is really new! Socialism/Progressivism is nothing new and has failed miserably, but I fear right now for my country but as a believer in Christ; we will be saved in the end...
Who thinks this is an ingenious and fairly easy plan when you have the resources own everything from water supply to electricity to oil to run cars and other forms of transportation then establish a state of panic in the country make money problems then socialize health care and other services so only the government can treat illnesses and injuries attack our own nation to put fear in the people and show their helplessness and make an excuse to gradually take more and more liberties away so it seems the right thing to do for our own safety then blame the attack on the world leader in fossil fuels so we have a reason to basically train a military to take over another oil rich baring country ala (Iraq plans to invade Iran as soon as our troops leave) then move to another country (Afghanistan to invade Pakistan when we train their military) and do the same thing get the leaders in power in both countries that agree with our views and corrupt them for our own benefit then every war making the people that own our money supply richer and richer then in the end when we control our people's thoughts basically and control their necessities lets make ourselves a dictatorship so our greedy selves can rule the world and anyone who gets in our way will be destroyed systematically what do you think the people with billions and billions of dollars whom we really know nothing about are trying to do to us as we speak oh and we just happen to want anyone with nuclear weapons to give them to us so when they try to resist we'll wipe them off the face of this earth Satan is very alive and through this you should realize that we are more controlled than anyone ever should be how much longer do you think we will last in this world it's even told in the bible that soon there will be a one world government and that is when Satan will rule and that is also when the world will end. Oh haven't you heard how America is to be unified to Canada and Mexico by 2010? probably not because the way things are right now aren't bad enough to make a reason most people will believe in to do so why not just cause another attack that really puts fear in people to make a reason to have one currency (AMERO) how about the severe inflation of the current U.S. currency And yes a lot of people believe Obama is the antichrist and here's why In the bible it says we will have 7 years of tribulation before the antichrist gets into power and our nation had been at war for seven years when president obama was elected into office now since he's black if there is an assassination of him and he comes back somehow (Antichrist trying to prove he is equal to Jesus)/ then really prey oh and isn't the world supposedly going to end in 2012 and 2012 is the end of Obama's term
Politics - 9 Answers
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you could always just marry bill 'the rapist' clinton.
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You don't need a plan to take over the us just be black
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you got that right it sure is happening now.
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It has been prophesied in the Book of Revelations that God will come and save his people from the devil.
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for crying out loud not another NWO conspiracy nut
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Hold your faith dearly. Some day, I fear, we will have to live hard and think strong.
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The people who have laughed at the NWO crowed should not laugh to loud they are trying as we speak to create a world Government and that is no conspiracy it is fact...it will be a slow progression... to avoid riots and the like by the time you know it has happened it will be too late...
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Dude, you are right on as far as biblical prophecy. That is what the good book says. Isn't it ironic that Obama is full filling almost all of the requirements for the coming antichrist but the geographic area he comes from? Our freedoms are under assault. Maybe not to the extent of the scenario above, but all of us need to be on our guard, getting involved by contacting our representatives and putting voice to our displeasure, and embracing legal, peaceful activism when they refuse to listen. The only people to blame for the state of our country are the 65 million that voted for Obama. You get what you vote for!
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What you write is a scary scenario..but I am very hopeful that our nation will survive again...If you have a chance, read all you can about our President Woodrow Wilson and Progressivism...I wasn't aware, but Wilson almost had our country in a dictatorship? Go to scribd.com/Woodrow Wilson and you will be totally shocked at how close our government came to becoming a dictatorship. So, people have to start studying history or we will be destined to repeat it. We are in a difficult time now but I am very hopeful that someone will come along who is an honest conservative and restore our nation to the greatness it once had. I believe in being informed...the problem is that a great percentage of Americans have no idea of their past history. I am into reading about our history and it is extremely enlightening..It proves nothing is really new! Socialism/Progressivism is nothing new and has failed miserably, but I fear right now for my country but as a believer in Christ; we will be saved in the end...
Monday, April 1, 2013
How to destroy America....Please read and state your opinions?
How to destroy America....Please read and state your opinions?
"How to Destroy America!" This One IS VERY Thought provoking! We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia, explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'" Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.". Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds. Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities." "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high. school." "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population." "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus'. instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo." "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them." In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.". There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in. America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength.". Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream!! Thought provoking? Send it on!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Immigration - 20 Answers
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i think a few hundred well placed nukes would do a faster more effective job
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Sigh, I've read it, I agree with it. Combine it with Lou Dobbs's book (you can squint through the topic sentences to shut out the hype, the reasoning so far seems sound.) So now what? -- sin, what does white have to do with it? As Lamm said, we can be multi-racial, just not multicultural. We are supposed to join into a single culture. -- eat all the tacos you like. Food isn't an issue. We LIKE the food. You're white already, you poor sap... or at least you sound American, which isn't necessarily white.
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Old email...saw it about four years ago.
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The author of the book is actually Victor Davis Hanson. Good book. So, how do I become white? I am willing to help solve this problem. Are there any hot blonde, blue eyed girls here? And if there are, how willing are you to help your country? Lets make some Mexican blue eyed babies. - I meant white as in the culture, not the race. I know that I need to do more than watching Seinfeld reruns and having a dog. Maybe I should jog in the mornings to Starbucks. Or maybe I'll stop eating tacos. I am sure it will help in forging a single culture. - You want to talk, send me an email through my profile.
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I got this 4/30/05 from a friend and I couldn't agree more....finally someone to write-in in '08.
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FYI-Dick Lamm was in favor of the proposed english only bill a few years back. If it had passed, Colorado would've had to change the state name(which means red or colorful in Spanish) among other ridiculous things. So, I kinda question his judgement here. We obviously need reform but do we need to become total nuts?
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Why does he want to destroy America!?! Its Christmas and he wants to blow us up! What about all the poor little children who never got to be grown up! he would destroy innocent peoples lives just for your entertainment! he should go to a third world country and see what suffering really is. hes sick.
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All I hear is "Blah, Blah, Blah..." Did our country wake up one morning and say..."Oh dear...we have and immigration problem..." ?? No, the immigration problem has been here for years and it still has not destroyed our great country.
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if you want people to read - write as if you knew we had 10,000 other questions on YA
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The Coming Darkness A Warning for Americans: A message from South Africa 20th March 2004 People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement). Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country. (Read what happened in S. Africa at the following website~it's where we are headed if we don't heed the warnings. The story is ¾ down the page. "The Coming Darkness")
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It seems to me that he simply wants assimilation by everyone. Assimilation-The process whereby a minority group gradually adopts the customs and attitudes of the prevailing culture. I have a problem wiht assimilation. Speaking specifically to what it means in America. The majority are white folks, and if you want to get ahead you must learn how to navigate in their world. As a minority I had to go from my world, to a world who despite all the talk of equality and non-discrimination does not respect my culture. I don't go with the "immigrants are ruining America" crap because every time we have a large number of immigrants coming into America the same thing is said. Immigraion is a problem don't get me wrong. But the problem exist because the American citizens don't speak up and require our elected officials, etc. to actually govern us properly. So don't blame the Immigrants for being able to get away with the illegal action blame our govt. for under funding border patrol, for not issuing more work visa's so they wouldn't have to come illegally, for not updating and expecting excellence from the public schools system, and for not fining companies who knowingly employee illegals because Americans supossedly don't want to do the job. That isn't true they just expect worker rights, something alot of immigrants are not getting in America.
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Thank you! Yes, extremely thought provoking and certainly made the hair stand up on the back of my neck, just reading it!
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I'm for limited legal immigration, and people learning english if they want to work and live in the United States, I'm also for the US/Mexico border fence, and a sober, dry-eyed, fact-filled look at everything that has to do with relations between our two countries, starting with the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, and coming forward from that. I'm also for looking at corporations that've heavily promoted 'globalization' over productivity and a self-sustaining economy, and the rest of the half-baked folderol that's been shoveled at us in lieu of well-considered policy concepts. I don't know what kind of pot they're smoking at Harvard or wherever these people go to school these days, but if a majority of americans are standing up and saying 'hey, um, Mr/Mrs Representative, there, um, border and immigration laws'? If that's being said, and this next Congress turns out to be as hearing-impaired as the last batch was, well it really doesn't matter how good the car is, if the driver's drunk or asleep at the wheel, it can't end well... On the flip side, there is a small 'componement' of alarmism in all of this, plus a dash of the old xenophobia. And, perhaps in this 21st century world, where some countries have really let themselves go to hell, maybe a bit of that really isn't out-of-place. There seems to be a global trend to scapegoat our country rather than other nations and peoples looking to themselves for the solution to their own problems, and it's kind of sad. Mexico, as one example, has the theoretical economic capacity to support all of its' citizens in reasonable style, but for years has chosen not to, as the United States has provided them with a convenient 'easy out'. The printed word is not yesterdays' invention, and there's no marvel mystery magic to what success we enjoy in the country today. Matter of fact, those computer things have been around for quite a while, too. What IS lacking, though, is a sense of responsibility on the part of these client countries who think it's their god-given right to enter our country at will. Time will tell how it works out, I think a positive approach is to keep expressing your unrelenting and active support to your representatives and state legislature for better immigration enforcement, and the abandonment of the whole multicultural business. I don't know if it exactly has to be 'learn english, or get the hell out', but there's definitely room for improvement on assimilation concepts, but none of it matters a whole lot if immigration goes 'runaway'. And, that means the enforcement side of things has to be continual, and ongoing, and improved, which I think they really are trying, but if you figure that there's an estimated 12 million people in our country illegally, that's a tall order for anybody to fill. Turning off the magnet of employers willing to hire illegal aliens as well as public benefits getting extended and so forth will be two key parts of this. While we're at it, there should be an honest discussion about ending welfare as we know it today, people need to get out and get jobs and they can start doing 'the jobs that illegal aliens won't be hired to do anymore', or something like that. Where there's a will, there's a way, and if people are out there, sober, employed, and making it happen for themselves, then there'll be less call for swollen, debt-ridden state budgets, too. This kind of thing may cramp some politicians' styles, but since they were more or less part and party to allowing all of this to go on to begin with, if not actively sponsoring and aiding and abetting themselves, they can go ahead and cope with some style cramping, there. We have a good country, which is why people are practically breaking down the door to get in. What's lacking, though, is a good national public movement to keep all things immigration and employment-related clean, clear, and above-board as they belong. I think we also need to work with Mexico and other countries, to actively help them to realize their own successes, so there's more of a spirit of partnership, and more incentive to keep all things lawful and in good faith between our country and theirs. You build a school by stacking one brick atop the other, anyplace there's granite and sand, there's components for making concrete, concrete can be poured into forms to make bricks, cinder block is also a great construction material, turns out, Mexico's got a BIG concrete company, they just need to develop more production output, and actually start laying in the roads etc necessary to bolster Mexico's infrastructure. You build roads, you build schools, you build hospitals, you build factories, pretty soon you've got the basic building blocks of a more economically successful country, more sustainable etc. NOT rocket science, but what's needed again is more honest and frank discussion between our countries to help both get pointed in the directions they need to go in, and with full observance of all relevant laws, including labor laws. If, for some reason, it turns out that there's some kind of problem in making all that happen, then it could be that we just have to have a focus on enforcement, and prevention, to exclude people from countries that flat don't have it together and don't show any signs of being willing to reform anytime soon. OUR country should not be allowed to degrade to accomodate corruption and incompetence elsewhere. Now, there's an economic angle, here, too. Again in the instance of Mexico, it's been reported that some 17 billion dollars' worth of revenue has been generated in the state of Texas, where 'migrant'(illegal alien) labor has been tacitly 'invited'(tolerated, aided and abetted, pick your terminology), and 17 million dollars is a Lot Of Money. Like really, a lot, and stuff. But, this in turn raises the question of whether or not it's more desirable to have the laws observed, upheld, and enforced, or whether conversely it's more desirable to reap the benefits of that additional economic input, AND whether, at the end of the day, the economic benefit outweighs additional demands on our national tax structure, our infrastructure, societal impact such as the multilingual thing you mentioned(we COULD learn spanish, but the question is WHY we'd have to, they're coming to our country, not vice versa), and above all whether we can continue to be good neighbors while in the midst of what ultimately works out to a large-scale economic competition. It's also fair to say that Mexico would basically fold up like a cheap kite economically were it not for their business with our country. Our country keeps their economy afloat with the proceeds of real labor, such as illustrated above, as WELL as the massive influx of illegal drugs into the USA from Mexico, and god knows what else goes on, truth be told. Speaking OF drugs, I just read that it's believed that POT is now the biggest selling cash crop in Washington State...hmmm....things that make ya go 'hmmm'.....
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That's very disturbing. Not too surprising though, as I knew there had to be a plan behind all this madness. I'm sorry that some people have been so brainwashed into feeling like victims that they can't see the truth in this. The only way the illegals could understand is if this began to happen to their home countries. Still I don't think most of them would make the connection between it happening to them and to us, as they think we deserve it. We must resist the propaganda and save our country.
15 :
That's not cool!
16 :
If people do not blend into american culture I totally agree with this writing. Think about it a seperate culture with there own language, TV stations, Radio stations, neightborhoods, grocery stores, gas stations, schools, hell citys.....its happening and it will continue to do so with absolutely no notion of being a part of this country. Hell worse claiming part of it for Mexico. Amnesty will seal the fate of this country.
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So, What are we as Americans willing to sacrifice in order to halt this percieved destruction of our nation and way of life? The time for debate has passed, the time for action is upon us.
18 :
carry on electing the crappy politicians we do, and no one will have to ponder these issues much longer.
19 :
What an excellent SHARE. Wonder if anyone if Washington REALLY heard anything. What a joke our AMERICAN world has become due to apparently "free thinkers" that don't know when to take the splinter out of the toe ....and if you don't remove the splinter you get to have to chop off the leg to gangrene .... and if not then ...to lose ultimately, the WHOLE BODY!
"How to Destroy America!" This One IS VERY Thought provoking! We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia, explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'" Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.". Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds. Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities." "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high. school." "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population." "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus'. instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo." "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them." In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.". There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in. America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength.". Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream!! Thought provoking? Send it on!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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i think a few hundred well placed nukes would do a faster more effective job
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Sigh, I've read it, I agree with it. Combine it with Lou Dobbs's book (you can squint through the topic sentences to shut out the hype, the reasoning so far seems sound.) So now what? -- sin, what does white have to do with it? As Lamm said, we can be multi-racial, just not multicultural. We are supposed to join into a single culture. -- eat all the tacos you like. Food isn't an issue. We LIKE the food. You're white already, you poor sap... or at least you sound American, which isn't necessarily white.
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Old email...saw it about four years ago.
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The author of the book is actually Victor Davis Hanson. Good book. So, how do I become white? I am willing to help solve this problem. Are there any hot blonde, blue eyed girls here? And if there are, how willing are you to help your country? Lets make some Mexican blue eyed babies. - I meant white as in the culture, not the race. I know that I need to do more than watching Seinfeld reruns and having a dog. Maybe I should jog in the mornings to Starbucks. Or maybe I'll stop eating tacos. I am sure it will help in forging a single culture. - You want to talk, send me an email through my profile.
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I got this 4/30/05 from a friend and I couldn't agree more....finally someone to write-in in '08.
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FYI-Dick Lamm was in favor of the proposed english only bill a few years back. If it had passed, Colorado would've had to change the state name(which means red or colorful in Spanish) among other ridiculous things. So, I kinda question his judgement here. We obviously need reform but do we need to become total nuts?
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Why does he want to destroy America!?! Its Christmas and he wants to blow us up! What about all the poor little children who never got to be grown up! he would destroy innocent peoples lives just for your entertainment! he should go to a third world country and see what suffering really is. hes sick.
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All I hear is "Blah, Blah, Blah..." Did our country wake up one morning and say..."Oh dear...we have and immigration problem..." ?? No, the immigration problem has been here for years and it still has not destroyed our great country.
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if you want people to read - write as if you knew we had 10,000 other questions on YA
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The Coming Darkness A Warning for Americans: A message from South Africa 20th March 2004 People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement). Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country. (Read what happened in S. Africa at the following website~it's where we are headed if we don't heed the warnings. The story is ¾ down the page. "The Coming Darkness")
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It seems to me that he simply wants assimilation by everyone. Assimilation-The process whereby a minority group gradually adopts the customs and attitudes of the prevailing culture. I have a problem wiht assimilation. Speaking specifically to what it means in America. The majority are white folks, and if you want to get ahead you must learn how to navigate in their world. As a minority I had to go from my world, to a world who despite all the talk of equality and non-discrimination does not respect my culture. I don't go with the "immigrants are ruining America" crap because every time we have a large number of immigrants coming into America the same thing is said. Immigraion is a problem don't get me wrong. But the problem exist because the American citizens don't speak up and require our elected officials, etc. to actually govern us properly. So don't blame the Immigrants for being able to get away with the illegal action blame our govt. for under funding border patrol, for not issuing more work visa's so they wouldn't have to come illegally, for not updating and expecting excellence from the public schools system, and for not fining companies who knowingly employee illegals because Americans supossedly don't want to do the job. That isn't true they just expect worker rights, something alot of immigrants are not getting in America.
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Thank you! Yes, extremely thought provoking and certainly made the hair stand up on the back of my neck, just reading it!
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I'm for limited legal immigration, and people learning english if they want to work and live in the United States, I'm also for the US/Mexico border fence, and a sober, dry-eyed, fact-filled look at everything that has to do with relations between our two countries, starting with the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, and coming forward from that. I'm also for looking at corporations that've heavily promoted 'globalization' over productivity and a self-sustaining economy, and the rest of the half-baked folderol that's been shoveled at us in lieu of well-considered policy concepts. I don't know what kind of pot they're smoking at Harvard or wherever these people go to school these days, but if a majority of americans are standing up and saying 'hey, um, Mr/Mrs Representative, there, um, border and immigration laws'? If that's being said, and this next Congress turns out to be as hearing-impaired as the last batch was, well it really doesn't matter how good the car is, if the driver's drunk or asleep at the wheel, it can't end well... On the flip side, there is a small 'componement' of alarmism in all of this, plus a dash of the old xenophobia. And, perhaps in this 21st century world, where some countries have really let themselves go to hell, maybe a bit of that really isn't out-of-place. There seems to be a global trend to scapegoat our country rather than other nations and peoples looking to themselves for the solution to their own problems, and it's kind of sad. Mexico, as one example, has the theoretical economic capacity to support all of its' citizens in reasonable style, but for years has chosen not to, as the United States has provided them with a convenient 'easy out'. The printed word is not yesterdays' invention, and there's no marvel mystery magic to what success we enjoy in the country today. Matter of fact, those computer things have been around for quite a while, too. What IS lacking, though, is a sense of responsibility on the part of these client countries who think it's their god-given right to enter our country at will. Time will tell how it works out, I think a positive approach is to keep expressing your unrelenting and active support to your representatives and state legislature for better immigration enforcement, and the abandonment of the whole multicultural business. I don't know if it exactly has to be 'learn english, or get the hell out', but there's definitely room for improvement on assimilation concepts, but none of it matters a whole lot if immigration goes 'runaway'. And, that means the enforcement side of things has to be continual, and ongoing, and improved, which I think they really are trying, but if you figure that there's an estimated 12 million people in our country illegally, that's a tall order for anybody to fill. Turning off the magnet of employers willing to hire illegal aliens as well as public benefits getting extended and so forth will be two key parts of this. While we're at it, there should be an honest discussion about ending welfare as we know it today, people need to get out and get jobs and they can start doing 'the jobs that illegal aliens won't be hired to do anymore', or something like that. Where there's a will, there's a way, and if people are out there, sober, employed, and making it happen for themselves, then there'll be less call for swollen, debt-ridden state budgets, too. This kind of thing may cramp some politicians' styles, but since they were more or less part and party to allowing all of this to go on to begin with, if not actively sponsoring and aiding and abetting themselves, they can go ahead and cope with some style cramping, there. We have a good country, which is why people are practically breaking down the door to get in. What's lacking, though, is a good national public movement to keep all things immigration and employment-related clean, clear, and above-board as they belong. I think we also need to work with Mexico and other countries, to actively help them to realize their own successes, so there's more of a spirit of partnership, and more incentive to keep all things lawful and in good faith between our country and theirs. You build a school by stacking one brick atop the other, anyplace there's granite and sand, there's components for making concrete, concrete can be poured into forms to make bricks, cinder block is also a great construction material, turns out, Mexico's got a BIG concrete company, they just need to develop more production output, and actually start laying in the roads etc necessary to bolster Mexico's infrastructure. You build roads, you build schools, you build hospitals, you build factories, pretty soon you've got the basic building blocks of a more economically successful country, more sustainable etc. NOT rocket science, but what's needed again is more honest and frank discussion between our countries to help both get pointed in the directions they need to go in, and with full observance of all relevant laws, including labor laws. If, for some reason, it turns out that there's some kind of problem in making all that happen, then it could be that we just have to have a focus on enforcement, and prevention, to exclude people from countries that flat don't have it together and don't show any signs of being willing to reform anytime soon. OUR country should not be allowed to degrade to accomodate corruption and incompetence elsewhere. Now, there's an economic angle, here, too. Again in the instance of Mexico, it's been reported that some 17 billion dollars' worth of revenue has been generated in the state of Texas, where 'migrant'(illegal alien) labor has been tacitly 'invited'(tolerated, aided and abetted, pick your terminology), and 17 million dollars is a Lot Of Money. Like really, a lot, and stuff. But, this in turn raises the question of whether or not it's more desirable to have the laws observed, upheld, and enforced, or whether conversely it's more desirable to reap the benefits of that additional economic input, AND whether, at the end of the day, the economic benefit outweighs additional demands on our national tax structure, our infrastructure, societal impact such as the multilingual thing you mentioned(we COULD learn spanish, but the question is WHY we'd have to, they're coming to our country, not vice versa), and above all whether we can continue to be good neighbors while in the midst of what ultimately works out to a large-scale economic competition. It's also fair to say that Mexico would basically fold up like a cheap kite economically were it not for their business with our country. Our country keeps their economy afloat with the proceeds of real labor, such as illustrated above, as WELL as the massive influx of illegal drugs into the USA from Mexico, and god knows what else goes on, truth be told. Speaking OF drugs, I just read that it's believed that POT is now the biggest selling cash crop in Washington State...hmmm....things that make ya go 'hmmm'.....
14 :
That's very disturbing. Not too surprising though, as I knew there had to be a plan behind all this madness. I'm sorry that some people have been so brainwashed into feeling like victims that they can't see the truth in this. The only way the illegals could understand is if this began to happen to their home countries. Still I don't think most of them would make the connection between it happening to them and to us, as they think we deserve it. We must resist the propaganda and save our country.
15 :
That's not cool!
16 :
If people do not blend into american culture I totally agree with this writing. Think about it a seperate culture with there own language, TV stations, Radio stations, neightborhoods, grocery stores, gas stations, schools, hell citys.....its happening and it will continue to do so with absolutely no notion of being a part of this country. Hell worse claiming part of it for Mexico. Amnesty will seal the fate of this country.
17 :
So, What are we as Americans willing to sacrifice in order to halt this percieved destruction of our nation and way of life? The time for debate has passed, the time for action is upon us.
18 :
carry on electing the crappy politicians we do, and no one will have to ponder these issues much longer.
19 :
What an excellent SHARE. Wonder if anyone if Washington REALLY heard anything. What a joke our AMERICAN world has become due to apparently "free thinkers" that don't know when to take the splinter out of the toe ....and if you don't remove the splinter you get to have to chop off the leg to gangrene .... and if not then ...to lose ultimately, the WHOLE BODY!
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