Friday, October 14, 2011

Why dont we take the illegals and replace them with homeless people?

Why dont we take the illegals and replace them with homeless people?
If we took all the homeless people and gave them the same jobs the illegal people now have we would fix all problems. This way we could also take out welfare. People who did not make any money because they are too lazy to work would be forced to work. All illegal mexicans would be kicked out of our country. We would slowly come back up in funds for our country and the United States of America would be a much better place to live.
Immigration - 19 Answers
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1 :
We'd have to give them homes first.
2 :
It would be a great idea, except that most homeless people either are suffering from mental illness or are strung out on drugs.
3 :
I agree with sara and chicka
4 :
Because Americas homeless have too much PRIDE to work minimum wage. Unless you raise minimum wage, after all it has been about 10yrs or so that wages have increased.
5 :
I'll second that proposal.
6 :
well the illegals or whatever need to go back where they came from but we defintaly have enough homeless people
7 :
most homeless not all are mentally ill. I dont know that they could function doing a job but all the money we spend/ dish out because of illegals could go to them to get them treatment and housing. They need short term rehabs as well. Why not help our own before we help everyone else.
8 :
Well alot lot of people don't remember that Reagan to save money cut alot of these peolpe of aid. And some can't work or barely take care of themselves. Now it is true Mexicans are hard working and will clean toilets with a smile.
9 :
well... your idea is about as crazy as most homeless people are... there is a reason they are homeless...
10 :
Many homeless people have psychological issues, drug adictions, and other problems adjusting to their surroundings. Many also are skitzo. Many are not good candidates to join the workforce.
11 :
Where have been Sherlock ?
12 :
It's a nice idea in theory. The problem is this, and yes I'm copying and pasting some of it..please bear with me: People who are homeless can be differentiated along six dimensions: (1) developmental phase of life (age); (2) gender; (3) social unit (families vs. single individuals), (4) racial or ethnocultural groups; (5) health status (psychiatric illness, substance abuse, HIV/AIDS, and the multiply diagnosed); and (6) social status (veteran vs. citizen vs. criminal vs. illegal immigrant). Many of the homeless people in this country are young children and teenagers. Obviously, in some cases they have a parent but in some cases they don't. Also, there are the mentally and physically ill who simply can't afford treatment, let alone proper medical or psyhchiatric care. Then there are the elderly and let's face it...you're not going to ask someone who's likely a grandparent to harvest anything.
13 :
Your question does not have a simple answer. Although there are homeless people who are simply that, homeless, just down on their luck, and a few who may be just plain lazy, the majority have underlying problems that need to be solved first. Many are mentally ill and not suitable for even the types of employment you suggest. Many are drug and/or alcoholics. Very few could survive only on the pitiful wages being given illegals, or even the not much better wages given legals. The answer is just not that easy.
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Lots of homless people are mentally ill and can't even sit still for 10 minutes without freaking out, much less work 8 hours in the sun. Many others have serious injury, illness or are like 80 year old. Even for those who coud work, in any economy there are going to be a percentage of people who are unemployed so you can't eliminate welfare by a 100% work policy or the country would not be able to grow when the economy expands....
15 :
good idea, we don't need any more illegals in this country but most homeless people are lazy or on drugs
16 :
Illegals must go. We don't need to 'replace' them. They are parasites, not cotributors to the welfare of our society.
17 :
You assume that welfare recipients are lazy and do not work. There are lots of welfare recipients working jobs but not making enough to even afford child care. Plus under welfare reform the recipients are already forced to work or go to school. Around here there's nothing but minimum wage jobs. The employers will only work an employee about 20 hours a week and one employer won't work around another employer's work schedules. 20 hours a week times $5.15/hour is about $100.00 a week and then they take out taxes and social security. The employee is making less than $400 a month and receiving welfare. Many of the women I know on welfare had been abandoned by the child's deadbeat father who refuses to help out with the children. Then the court orders the women to remain in the area in case the deadbeat ever wants to exercise his visitation rights for the child(ren) he won't even support. So the women face criminal sanctions if they move somewhere to try and get jobs that pay better money. After going through college to try and get a better job, the minimum wage employers around here won't hire them because they are "overqualified" and there aren't the better jobs around here. Since they aren't allowed to leave to get the better jobs, they're stuck. They have educated themselves out of the job market. The easy fix to this problem would be to lift the sanctions against their moving out of the area so that they can get decent jobs, but the courts want to control their lives to preserve the 'rights' of these deadbeats who don't want to take care of the kids in the first place. Yes, these illegal aliens need to be deported. There are enough Americans trying to get jobs already without depressing the wages even further. The illegals make up about 5 % of the work force. The unemployment rate is about 4.5%. Keep in mind that the unemployment rate does NOT represent everyone who is unemployed. It only counts those who are collecting unemployment. Everyone else's plight is ignored. The unemployment rate if everyone was counted would be tremendous. We do NOT have a shortage of labor, we have a large surplus. The more illegals that come in and take our jobs at minimum wage or less (often less) puts more and more Americans out of a job. Most of these Americans are never counted in the unemployment rate if they do not manage to get unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits are hard to receive. Illegals draw welfare by stealing people's social security numbers and identities. That means there are a lot of people being directly hurt by these people as well. Innocent people are having their credit ratings ruined, having IRS problems, and social security problems. If someone who has had their social security number stolen gets married, if either spouse dies or become disabled then they can be denied their benefits. My family moved to the US before WWII. Those of my family that didn't make it over got killed by the death camps. Our family assimilated to the American culture. We didn't expect the Americans to change to suit us. The illegal immigrants from Mexico are not civilized like that. They not only changed the National Anthem to Spanish, they changed the words. They already burn our flag and hang our flag upside down. They waved the Mexican flag during a lot of their protests. Some schools have stopped hanging the American flag and forbidden students from wearing clothes with any part of the American flag on their clothing all to keep from offending the Mexicans. It's nothing short of an attack of our country, not only by the illegal aliens, but those who seek to appease them. I am tired of the stereotype that Americans wouldn't do the work that illegals do. Illegals do all kinds of jobs for less than minimum wage which drives the wages down for U.S. citizens. Construction jobs are an example. There are lots of illegals doing construction jobs that Americans used to do because the companies can keep more of the profits if they pay less for the workers. All that does is make companies wealthier and Americans poorer. Illegals are stealing jobs that Americans have done for years. "Mexico is waging war on the U.S. through mass immigration illegal and legal, through the assertion of Mexican national claims over the U.S., and through the subversion of its laws and sovereignty, all having the common end of bringing the southwestern part of the U.S. under the control of the expanding Mexican nation, and of increasing Mexico’s political and cultural influence over the U.S. as a whole. Cultural imperialism We experience Mexico’s assault on our country incrementally—as a series of mini-crises, each of which calls forth ever-renewed debates and perhaps some tiny change of policy. Because it has been with us so long and has become part of the cultural and political air we breathe, it is hard for us to see the deep logic behind our “immigration problem.” Focused as we are on border incursions, border enforcement, illegal alien crime, guest worker proposals, changes of government in Mexico City, and other such transient problems and events—all of them framed by the media’s obfuscation of whether or not illegal immigration’s costs outweigh its benefits and by the maudlin script of “immigrant rights”—we don’t get the Big Picture: that the Mexican government is promoting and carrying out an attack on the United States. Another reason we miss what’s happening is that our focus is on the immigrants as individuals. Thus our leaders talk about illegal immigrants as “good dads,” “hard working folks” seeking to better their lives and their family’s prospects. In fact, this is not about individual immigrants and their families, legal or illegal. It is about a great national migration, a nation of people moving into our nation’s land, in order to reproduce on it their own nation and people and push ours aside. Thus, in orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state is representing the desires of the Mexican people as a whole. What are these desires? (1) Political revanchism—to regain control of the territories Mexico lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliations they feel they have suffered at our hands for the last century and a half; (2) Cultural imperialism—to expand the Mexican culture and the Spanish language into North America; and especially (3) Economic parasitism—to maintain and increase the flow of billions of dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican political system cocooned in its status quo. " http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21309
18 :
not a bad idea but, what if we include all the people on welfare and unemployment, this should be plenty...
19 :
A lot of these vets, IE homeless, thought the government was going to take care of them when they got back in the states. Well they were wrong too.