Do you support the 2010 commitment to america?
2010 Commitment to America We the People of the United States of America, reclaiming our inalienable rights, demand that Congress bring an end to the out-of-control spending of our tax dollars and the intrusive growth of the Federal Government. To this end, we demand that Members of Congress do the following: 1. Stop the massive spending that is bankrupting America. Start with no new bailouts. Roll back federal spending to 2007 levels and cap annual spending growth at the rate of inflation plus population growth. 2. Vote for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that also requires a 2/3 supermajority to raise taxes. 3. Repeal or defund the government takeover of our health care. Start over with health care reform that is patient centered and reduces - not raises - our health care costs. 4. Repeal the automatic tax increases scheduled for 2011. Vote against increased taxation, including energy taxes and value added taxes. 5. Require "sunset" provisions for every spending program passed and every agency created by Congress. 6. Legislate limits on excessive agency rule making by requiring that Congress vote to approve all major new rules. 7. Demonstrate legislative transparency. Five days in advance of a vote, post online all bills, resolutions and conference reports. Require roll call votes on all measures that spend money. 8. Hold no votes in a "lame duck" session that would increase spending, taxes or regulation. This would include, for example, cap and trade, card check and immigration. 9. Abide by the principle that any law that does not apply to Congress or its staff does not apply to the American people. 10. Provide specific citations from the Constitution for any legislation introduced.
Politics - 7 Answers
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I do .
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Yes i do
3 :
Yes. There is not much in there that most people would disagree with.
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1. Stop the massive spending that is bankrupting America. Start with no new bailouts. Roll back federal spending to 2007 levels and cap annual spending growth at the rate of inflation plus population growth. [No. We're coming out of a recession -- cutting spending will prolong it. ] 2. Vote for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution that also requires a 2/3 supermajority to raise taxes. [Modern Republicans have NO record of balancing the budget, and in fact repealed PayGo in 2002.] 3. Repeal or defund the government takeover of our health care. Start over with health care reform that is patient centered and reduces - not raises - our health care costs. [Easier said than done. You have NO plan for how to reduce healthcare costs] 4. Repeal the automatic tax increases scheduled for 2011. Vote against increased taxation, including energy taxes and value added taxes. [Obviously you don't care about reducing the debt. "Tax cuts pay for themselves" is a LIE.] 5. Require "sunset" provisions for every spending program passed and every agency created by Congress. [Like tax cuts for the rich?] 6. Legislate limits on excessive agency rule making by requiring that Congress vote to approve all major new rules. [Define "major". BTW, the Supreme Court ORDERED the EPA to regulate CO2 emissions.] 7. Demonstrate legislative transparency. Five days in advance of a vote, post online all bills, resolutions and conference reports. Require roll call votes on all measures that spend money. [This will slow down government, which I guess you want. Three days is plenty.] 8. Hold no votes in a "lame duck" session that would increase spending, taxes or regulation. This would include, for example, cap and trade, card check and immigration. [Funny, these are all Democratic policies...] 9. Abide by the principle that any law that does not apply to Congress or its staff does not apply to the American people. [Fine with me, as long as it makes sense.See, I can be reasonable.] 10. Provide specific citations from the Constitution for any legislation introduced. [Be careful what you wish for...Bush got killed by the Supreme Court several times for unConstitutional policies.]
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Sounds good to me.
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1.) No. Educated people recognize that without massive stimulus the economy would be in even worse shape. 2.) Yes and no.By the time it would filter through the state legislatures the economy will have recovered. At the point, it will serve as useful tool for preventing other recessions. The second portion is outright idiotic and whoever wrote should kill themselves. I am NOT kidding. Are you arguing we should be able to declare war or vote for Use of Force Resolutions with a simple majority but not raise taxes on the richest Americans without a 2/3 super-super majority? Hahaha, you're cute, con. You really are. 3.) Government hasn't taken over healthcare. Irrelevant question. 4.) No. We can't complain about the deficit on hand without addressing revenue on the other. Christ, this is so stupid. 5.) Too vague and elementary. 6.) Again, way, way, way, too vague and childish. Just waht is a "major new rule?" Did you write this up yourself? I hope not. 7.) Sure, but that won't make anyone care. People support or oppose legislation based on the party of the person in the White House, not its merits. 8.) Why not? In an emergency that may well be necessary. 9.) Like what? 10.) That hasn't been done, ever. The Constitutionality or lack thereof of legislation is decided in the Courts, exactly as our founders intended. Read the Federalist Papers, chump, especially the ones that pertain to the structure of the judiciary. How old are you, man? I hope you're in high school.
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i like all of it, but history shows that populist promises are soon forgotten when special interests covertly exert their influence over the process. it is THE PROCESS that needs to be transformed and THE DYNAMIC that needs to be reformed. the constitution is a covenant between the states to form a union. the covenant has been broken. the fed cannot function without full cooperation from the states. if even a dozen or so states told the congress and supreme court to go to hell and stopped all cooperation all together (not civil war, just complete obfuscation) the federal government would COLLAPSE. the supreme court, once and for all, needs to understand the severity of legislating from the bench and not respecting the constitutional limitations on government power. "general welfare" does not mean anything you want it to mean, and "interstate commerce" is not me sitting on the couch not buying what you want me to buy or planting tomatos in my garden. these promises in the "committment" are all fine, but they are temporal politics, just like the "contract with america". they are promises to treat the symptoms of the disease while letting the cancer grow.
Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Wednesday, November 14, 2012
how does this make you feel??
how does this make you feel??
WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON. Gas rationing in the 70's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even have been good for us! Are you aware that the Saudis are boycotting American products? Shouldn't we return the favor? Can't we take control of our own destiny and let these giant oil importers know who REALLY generates their profits, their livings? How about leaving American Dollars in America and reduce th e import/export deficit? An appealing remedy might be to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up your car you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just purchase gas from companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill up my tank, I'm sending my money to people who I get the impression want me, my family and my friends dead. Don't you think it might be of interest to know which oil companies import Middle Eastern oil and which do not? These companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell..................................... 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco................... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil....................... 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway............. 117,740,000 barrels Amoco................................... 62,231,000 barrels And CITGO oil is imported from Venezuela by Dictator Hugo Chavez who hates America and openly avows our economic destruction! (We pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!) The U.S.. currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC. If you do the math at $95 per barrel, that's over $524 million PER DAY ($191 BILLION per year!) handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies!!!!! Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco....................... 0 barrels Conoco....................... 0 barrels Sinclair...................... 0 barrels BP / Phillips................ 0 barrels Hess. ......................... 0 barrels ARC0 ......................... 0 barrels Maverick...................... 0 barrels Flying J. ...................... 0 barrels Valero............................ 0 barrels $BO)(B I AM GOING TO ADD THE FOLLOWING... J Murphy Oil USA sold at Wal-Mart is from South Arkansas and owned USA Not only that they give scholarships to all children in their town who finish high school and are legal US citizens. All of this information is available from the U.S. Department of Energy and each company is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. But to have a real impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. With the help of the internet, it's really simple to do. Now, don't wimp out at this point....keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at only ten more (30 x 10 = 300)....and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)....and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers!!!!!!! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it....THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE-the entire population of the United States of America !!!! It doesn't matter how old this information is, when the situations are the same or much worse. You are not wrong Texas Underdog, nor are you right, we all know there is always a way around every law ever written. The info I have given here is still good. Baptism By Fire, Thank you so much for the additional details. That is such a big help.
Economics - 6 Answers
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That is so awesome and informative! I was riding around today with my 2 daughters and my 12 year old cousin and we were all laughing and giggling and I was so distracted an p!#$ed at the GAS PRICES and I casually passed station after station trying to decide where to spend my allocated $20 Friday gas money... that used to fill UP the Rav-4 and now doesn't even give me a 3rd of a tank!!! Thank you. I am printing the list and giving it to my huge family and loads of friends. This has got to stop. Thank you! I am also posting it on my myspace page as a blog. Props and credits to you. Peace. I can email you the link if you wanna show off. HA!
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The answer is in corporate greed that is soulless and uncaring, unless some money is at stake. There will have to be a complete and persistent shift in social behavior before this excess will subside.
3 :
Thank you for getting the word out, I remember the gas lines and the odd and even days that we could fill up. I have all but parked my car...The rich get rich and the poor get poorer, sad situation. This is still the greatest Country in the world, but we are getting worked over...big time... Appreciate it and thanks for getting it out there..I for one and my contacts are on it......thank you K
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I AGREE WE SHOULD BY U.S.A. PRODUCTS ALL THE WAY AROUND. HOWEVER EVEN A BIGGER STEP WE CAN TAKE IS MAYBE PARK OUR GASOLINE DEPENDENT VEHICLES AND START GOING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, RIDE A BICYCLE, WALK, AND DO IT THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS AND SEE IF THAT MAY CHANGE THE HEARTBEAT OF THE OPEC AND OIL COMPANIES. WHEN RESEARCHING YOUR POST HERE IS WHAT I FOUND ON TRUTHORFICTION.COM. AS IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE AFTER SEPT. 11, 2001 AND HAD TO DO AT THAT TIME WITH TERRORISM FUNDING. Boycott The Oil Companies Buying Middle Eastern Oil and We'll Stop Funding Terrorism and Keep the Gas Prices down-Truth! & Fiction! Summary of the eRumor This message lists several oil companies and how much Middle Eastern oil they buy. It encourages us to stop buying from the companies that buy from the Middle East because that will reduce the support of terrorism. It also suggests that in May of 2001, there was a successful grass-roots effort to drive down gas prices by boycotting certain companies. The Truth There are several issues in this eRumor. First, does the purchase of Middle Eastern oil help terrorism. There are varying voices on that. Some say that since Osama Bin Laden's family made its money mostly from construction and that Bin Laden has been estranged from the family for quite a while, there isn't any direct link. Others say that oil purchased from countries like Iraq goes directly toward support of terrorism and that profits for other countries, such as Saudi Arabia, indirectly aid terrorism because of wealthy Saudis who are said to help finance people like Osama Bin Laden. Second, what oil companies buy Middle Eastern oil? We were able to secure the statistics from the U.S. Department of Energy for various oil companies for calendar Year 2000: Shell purchased 3,611,000 barrels from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia BP purchased none from the Middle East. Chevron purchased 14,724,000 from the Middle East. Citgo-None from the Middle East. Amoco purchased 3,611,000 barrels from the Middle East. Exxon-Mobil combined purchased 13,273,000 barrels from the Middle East. Marathon purchased 10,710,000 in Middle Eastern oil. Sunoco purchased none from the Middle East. Conoco purchased 523,000 from the Middle East. Sinclair-We didn't find any figures. Phillips-We didn't find any Middle Eastern purchases. Third, was there a successful boycott in 2001? Not really. There have been several emails circulated from time to time that encourage a day or a week of avoiding buying gas, but there's never been any evidence that we're aware of that they had had any impact on gas prices. There is one version of this eRumor that adopts some information from another popular eRumor and claims that gas is projected to rise to $3 per gallon by the summer of 2002. The Energy Department forecast, however, is for a high of $1.60 per gallon. We have not found any forecasts for $3 per gallon. Last updated 3/23/03 A real example of the eRumor as it has appeared on the Internet: Yisrael Medad of the Begin Center sent the following information. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from. Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 -8/31/01). Shell 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco 144,332,000 barrels Exxon/Mobil 130,082,000 barrels Marathon 117,740,000 barrels Amoco 62,231,000 barrels If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Citgo 0 barrels Sunoco 0 Conoco 0 Sinclair 0 BP/Phillips 0 All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and can be easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a monthly basis. Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. Stop paying for terrorism DO YOU REMEMBER LAST MAY, WHEN GAS PRICES WERE THREATENING TO GO TO $2.00 PER GALLON. I ACTUALLY PAID $2.05 PER GALLON IN OHIO. WELL, THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IT AGAIN. WE E-MAILED EVERYONE IN OUR ADDRESS BOOKS, AND ASKED EVERYONE ELSE TO DO THE SAME. WITHIN DAYS, AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GOT THE MESSAGE, AND GUESS WHAT? MYSTERIOUSLY, GAS PRICES WENT DOWN. ECONOMICS - JUST BUY FROM THE OTHER FOUR OR FIVE COMPANIES WHO DON'T BUY OIL FROM THE MODEST TERRORIST SUPPORTING COUNTRIES. THEN WE DO BUY FROM THE FOLLOWING COMPANIES WHO DO NOT BUY MID EAST OIL. Citgo 0 barrels Sunoco 0 Conoco 0 Sinclair 0 BP/Phillips 0 IT IS YOUR MONEY! SPEND IT WISELY! JUST SAY NO TO MID EASTERN COUNTRIES WHO SUPPORT TERRORISM! WE SENT THIS OUT MAY OF 2001. AND IT WORKED!!! We need to do whatever we can, and do it NOW!!!! PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO BELOW $1.28 - $1.29 AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK! If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention UNITED WE STAND!!! ~ AMERICAN ECONOMICS IN ACTION!!!~
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How old are these figures? And, don't oil companies buy oil from each other when they need to? Just because a company doesn't buy directly from the Middle East, doesn't mean that the gas you put in your vehicle did not originate from there. Am I wrong on this? ======================================
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Green Greed :)~
WHERE TO BUY AMERICAN GASOLINE. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON. Gas rationing in the 70's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even have been good for us! Are you aware that the Saudis are boycotting American products? Shouldn't we return the favor? Can't we take control of our own destiny and let these giant oil importers know who REALLY generates their profits, their livings? How about leaving American Dollars in America and reduce th e import/export deficit? An appealing remedy might be to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up your car you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just purchase gas from companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill up my tank, I'm sending my money to people who I get the impression want me, my family and my friends dead. Don't you think it might be of interest to know which oil companies import Middle Eastern oil and which do not? These companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell..................................... 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco................... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil....................... 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway............. 117,740,000 barrels Amoco................................... 62,231,000 barrels And CITGO oil is imported from Venezuela by Dictator Hugo Chavez who hates America and openly avows our economic destruction! (We pay Chavez's regime nearly $10 Billion per year in oil revenues!) The U.S.. currently imports 5,517,000 barrels of crude oil per day from OPEC. If you do the math at $95 per barrel, that's over $524 million PER DAY ($191 BILLION per year!) handed over to OPEC, many of whose members are our confirmed enemies!!!!! Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco....................... 0 barrels Conoco....................... 0 barrels Sinclair...................... 0 barrels BP / Phillips................ 0 barrels Hess. ......................... 0 barrels ARC0 ......................... 0 barrels Maverick...................... 0 barrels Flying J. ...................... 0 barrels Valero............................ 0 barrels $BO)(B I AM GOING TO ADD THE FOLLOWING... J Murphy Oil USA sold at Wal-Mart is from South Arkansas and owned USA Not only that they give scholarships to all children in their town who finish high school and are legal US citizens. All of this information is available from the U.S. Department of Energy and each company is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. But to have a real impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. With the help of the internet, it's really simple to do. Now, don't wimp out at this point....keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at only ten more (30 x 10 = 300)....and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)....and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers!!!!!!! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it....THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE-the entire population of the United States of America !!!! It doesn't matter how old this information is, when the situations are the same or much worse. You are not wrong Texas Underdog, nor are you right, we all know there is always a way around every law ever written. The info I have given here is still good. Baptism By Fire, Thank you so much for the additional details. That is such a big help.
Economics - 6 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
That is so awesome and informative! I was riding around today with my 2 daughters and my 12 year old cousin and we were all laughing and giggling and I was so distracted an p!#$ed at the GAS PRICES and I casually passed station after station trying to decide where to spend my allocated $20 Friday gas money... that used to fill UP the Rav-4 and now doesn't even give me a 3rd of a tank!!! Thank you. I am printing the list and giving it to my huge family and loads of friends. This has got to stop. Thank you! I am also posting it on my myspace page as a blog. Props and credits to you. Peace. I can email you the link if you wanna show off. HA!
2 :
The answer is in corporate greed that is soulless and uncaring, unless some money is at stake. There will have to be a complete and persistent shift in social behavior before this excess will subside.
3 :
Thank you for getting the word out, I remember the gas lines and the odd and even days that we could fill up. I have all but parked my car...The rich get rich and the poor get poorer, sad situation. This is still the greatest Country in the world, but we are getting worked over...big time... Appreciate it and thanks for getting it out there..I for one and my contacts are on it......thank you K
4 :
I AGREE WE SHOULD BY U.S.A. PRODUCTS ALL THE WAY AROUND. HOWEVER EVEN A BIGGER STEP WE CAN TAKE IS MAYBE PARK OUR GASOLINE DEPENDENT VEHICLES AND START GOING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, RIDE A BICYCLE, WALK, AND DO IT THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS AND SEE IF THAT MAY CHANGE THE HEARTBEAT OF THE OPEC AND OIL COMPANIES. WHEN RESEARCHING YOUR POST HERE IS WHAT I FOUND ON TRUTHORFICTION.COM. AS IT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE AFTER SEPT. 11, 2001 AND HAD TO DO AT THAT TIME WITH TERRORISM FUNDING. Boycott The Oil Companies Buying Middle Eastern Oil and We'll Stop Funding Terrorism and Keep the Gas Prices down-Truth! & Fiction! Summary of the eRumor This message lists several oil companies and how much Middle Eastern oil they buy. It encourages us to stop buying from the companies that buy from the Middle East because that will reduce the support of terrorism. It also suggests that in May of 2001, there was a successful grass-roots effort to drive down gas prices by boycotting certain companies. The Truth There are several issues in this eRumor. First, does the purchase of Middle Eastern oil help terrorism. There are varying voices on that. Some say that since Osama Bin Laden's family made its money mostly from construction and that Bin Laden has been estranged from the family for quite a while, there isn't any direct link. Others say that oil purchased from countries like Iraq goes directly toward support of terrorism and that profits for other countries, such as Saudi Arabia, indirectly aid terrorism because of wealthy Saudis who are said to help finance people like Osama Bin Laden. Second, what oil companies buy Middle Eastern oil? We were able to secure the statistics from the U.S. Department of Energy for various oil companies for calendar Year 2000: Shell purchased 3,611,000 barrels from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia BP purchased none from the Middle East. Chevron purchased 14,724,000 from the Middle East. Citgo-None from the Middle East. Amoco purchased 3,611,000 barrels from the Middle East. Exxon-Mobil combined purchased 13,273,000 barrels from the Middle East. Marathon purchased 10,710,000 in Middle Eastern oil. Sunoco purchased none from the Middle East. Conoco purchased 523,000 from the Middle East. Sinclair-We didn't find any figures. Phillips-We didn't find any Middle Eastern purchases. Third, was there a successful boycott in 2001? Not really. There have been several emails circulated from time to time that encourage a day or a week of avoiding buying gas, but there's never been any evidence that we're aware of that they had had any impact on gas prices. There is one version of this eRumor that adopts some information from another popular eRumor and claims that gas is projected to rise to $3 per gallon by the summer of 2002. The Energy Department forecast, however, is for a high of $1.60 per gallon. We have not found any forecasts for $3 per gallon. Last updated 3/23/03 A real example of the eRumor as it has appeared on the Internet: Yisrael Medad of the Begin Center sent the following information. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from. Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for the period 9/1/00 -8/31/01). Shell 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco 144,332,000 barrels Exxon/Mobil 130,082,000 barrels Marathon 117,740,000 barrels Amoco 62,231,000 barrels If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Citgo 0 barrels Sunoco 0 Conoco 0 Sinclair 0 BP/Phillips 0 All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and can be easily documented. Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. They report on a monthly basis. Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. Stop paying for terrorism DO YOU REMEMBER LAST MAY, WHEN GAS PRICES WERE THREATENING TO GO TO $2.00 PER GALLON. I ACTUALLY PAID $2.05 PER GALLON IN OHIO. WELL, THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IT AGAIN. WE E-MAILED EVERYONE IN OUR ADDRESS BOOKS, AND ASKED EVERYONE ELSE TO DO THE SAME. WITHIN DAYS, AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GOT THE MESSAGE, AND GUESS WHAT? MYSTERIOUSLY, GAS PRICES WENT DOWN. ECONOMICS - JUST BUY FROM THE OTHER FOUR OR FIVE COMPANIES WHO DON'T BUY OIL FROM THE MODEST TERRORIST SUPPORTING COUNTRIES. THEN WE DO BUY FROM THE FOLLOWING COMPANIES WHO DO NOT BUY MID EAST OIL. Citgo 0 barrels Sunoco 0 Conoco 0 Sinclair 0 BP/Phillips 0 IT IS YOUR MONEY! SPEND IT WISELY! JUST SAY NO TO MID EASTERN COUNTRIES WHO SUPPORT TERRORISM! WE SENT THIS OUT MAY OF 2001. AND IT WORKED!!! We need to do whatever we can, and do it NOW!!!! PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO BELOW $1.28 - $1.29 AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK! If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention UNITED WE STAND!!! ~ AMERICAN ECONOMICS IN ACTION!!!~
5 :
How old are these figures? And, don't oil companies buy oil from each other when they need to? Just because a company doesn't buy directly from the Middle East, doesn't mean that the gas you put in your vehicle did not originate from there. Am I wrong on this? ======================================
6 :
Green Greed :)~
Wednesday, November 7, 2012
America, philosophy, politics, freedom. A survey?
America, philosophy, politics, freedom. A survey?
Please post an answer if you agree to at least 3 of the following 5 statements: 1. The economy right now is, for lack of a better word, crap and this is due to the influence of the powerful banking elite such as the Rockefeller family. 2. Human nature, beyond evolutionary instinct, is very much a pliable doctrine that can be and has been manipulated by the ruling members of governments since a monetary system was created. 3. The most profitable venture a bank can take part in is the instigation of a war nvolving at least one powerful nation. 4. The major agents of business and media, the elected officials, and hence the general populace in the United States of America have been under the control of the aforementioned powerful agents at least since the founding of the Federal Reserve System. 5. Someone should do something to stop the egregious infringements upon human freedom and intellectual progress that result from the undeniable truth of the first 4 statements. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." -Mayer Amschel Rothschild Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel of Europe W Kumar: I was just trying to get an initial feel for the size of the population that feels the same way about this topic, but thank you for your advice. To the poster below W Kumar: Does it not strike you as egotistic and unenlightened that simply because your standard of living is high (meaning you have a nice house with 2 cars and a shopping mall down the street) that you feel no obligation to try to stop the atrocities happening around the world for the sake of money disguised as religion and national security?
Other - Politics & Government - 3 Answers
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You wanted those to agree with your points to respond. However, I have to disagree with all of them except 2. Governments of course play with economics all the time. Economics is politics by another name. However, don't believe that conspiracy theories are the reason we are facing problems.
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Such silly concerns. If the 'bankers' ran everything, why are they in so much trouble now? Also, why, exactly, should anybody care even if that is true? My quality of life is pretty good. Obviously, whomever is running things can't be doing too bad a job.
3 :
I think few feel this way... I agree, in parts... I don't think it's as organized or intentional... but I think that some of these issues are real... and nothing will be done as long as people are fed and their freedoms are not directly infringed upon... to their knowledge...
Please post an answer if you agree to at least 3 of the following 5 statements: 1. The economy right now is, for lack of a better word, crap and this is due to the influence of the powerful banking elite such as the Rockefeller family. 2. Human nature, beyond evolutionary instinct, is very much a pliable doctrine that can be and has been manipulated by the ruling members of governments since a monetary system was created. 3. The most profitable venture a bank can take part in is the instigation of a war nvolving at least one powerful nation. 4. The major agents of business and media, the elected officials, and hence the general populace in the United States of America have been under the control of the aforementioned powerful agents at least since the founding of the Federal Reserve System. 5. Someone should do something to stop the egregious infringements upon human freedom and intellectual progress that result from the undeniable truth of the first 4 statements. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws." -Mayer Amschel Rothschild Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel of Europe W Kumar: I was just trying to get an initial feel for the size of the population that feels the same way about this topic, but thank you for your advice. To the poster below W Kumar: Does it not strike you as egotistic and unenlightened that simply because your standard of living is high (meaning you have a nice house with 2 cars and a shopping mall down the street) that you feel no obligation to try to stop the atrocities happening around the world for the sake of money disguised as religion and national security?
Other - Politics & Government - 3 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
You wanted those to agree with your points to respond. However, I have to disagree with all of them except 2. Governments of course play with economics all the time. Economics is politics by another name. However, don't believe that conspiracy theories are the reason we are facing problems.
2 :
Such silly concerns. If the 'bankers' ran everything, why are they in so much trouble now? Also, why, exactly, should anybody care even if that is true? My quality of life is pretty good. Obviously, whomever is running things can't be doing too bad a job.
3 :
I think few feel this way... I agree, in parts... I don't think it's as organized or intentional... but I think that some of these issues are real... and nothing will be done as long as people are fed and their freedoms are not directly infringed upon... to their knowledge...
Thursday, November 1, 2012
Atheists if God in money and the pledge is so important to you?
Atheists if God in money and the pledge is so important to you?
why can't you get the history surrounding it right? Why do you say "In God We Trust" has only been on money since 1950's? It has actually been on money since 1864 when it was put on coins by an Act of Congress in 1863 (making it on our money alot longer then our money was without it).& on paper money since 1935. http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html The pledge I have heard talk about the "Founding Fathers" & the pledge. No founding father wrote the Pledge it was written 1892. It did not even contain the words United States of America until the 1940's before that it was "I pledge allegiance to my flag" nor was it brought into schools until then. The under God was added in the 50's. But it is not like the pldge was ever suppose to be secular or governmental, it was written by a Baptist minister. http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm If it is SO important we have to hear about it all the time why don't you know the history around it? Actually already knew it I just figured the links might help. People keep repeating the same inaccurate stuff over and over. If I am going to HAVE to hear about it, I at least want to read accurate historical statements so I don't keep getting annoyed over it. I still will think it is a stupid thing to be upset over, but I won;t be annoyed at the inaccurate history. the demoiselle here is two questions and answers where it has been said twice about monney and the 50's in just the last two days http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgUp0kaJLwmpDFSivtH0Go7sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080508172024AAzP2dw&show=7#profile-info-JDZdPo21aa http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ai7GdnHTTExSQ9pqGmzukdbty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080507002310AAibFEg&show=7#profile-info-J09fTNETaa
Religion & Spirituality - 26 Answers
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thanks for taking your time to look that up for everyone
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And how do you know I didn't know the history?
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since when do people say that "in god we trust" has been on money only since the '50s? i've only heard that said about the pledge.
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I do know the history and have correctly stated it a number of times. It's still a violation of seperation of church and state.
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I have never heard any atheist use either argument that you state. I could not care less. I use the cash because it's there and what choice do I have? The barter system just doesn't cut it in my town -- they will not trade me a gallon of gas for some home-made pork chops. I don't say the pledge. My kids don't either. None of it really matters. .
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I read 1956. For the pledge anyway. http://www.nonbeliever.org/images/CR102-13917.pdf
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I knew all of that before I read this question. None of that changes my opinion that the references to some god should be removed from both U.S. money and the pledge.
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Thanks for the history lesson, now smother yourself in gravy.
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I love strawmen.
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it's not really important to me, i'm more interested in ridding the country of christofascism and fundamentalism
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Yeah...I knew that. But you are still admitting that the founders didn't put it there, which points to their very proper intent. It should have never been added.
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Why is it so important to Christians that you have to pair god with money?
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If the bible is so important to you, why don't you read it? And one of the reason's religion is so dangerous is that it can be used as a weapon. If a government controls religion, they control people's feelings and morals, and that's dangerous. If a government uses religion to raise morale or gain support, it's just wrong. And in 1956 that's exactly what was done. And I don't care if a minister wrote the pledge of allegiance, if we teach our kids to say it, it must be secular. Religion should never be included in school, unless teaching about it in a history, english, or mythology class.
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amen sister!
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Actually, I've only seen Christians get the history wrong. Fun Fact: The pledge was written by a socialist to sell flags to schools and used to include a weird, almost Nazi-like salute, which was promptly removed in the 30's
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Who Says its just atheists? I have no trust in the vile monster you would call "god" am i an atheist? No. We live in a secular nation. Church and state must therefore be separate for the dignity of all American Citizens. If you don't like that idea... Move to Iran.
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I always thought that god was money.Benny Hinn and Jerry Fallswell and the rest did such a good job of making me believe it.The pledge of allegiance was used to unite the country,and sell flags.You did well.
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im pretty sure like 90% of atheists know that, trust me we use as ammunition against you guys all the time.
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I know the history around it, but thank you for the lecture anyway.
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They don't get the history surrounding it because. The pledge and money mentions God. They do not believe in God there for. They do not believe in checking out history to know the facts and truths. Personal observation from being here in r&s. :-)
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Actually "in god we trust" has only been our motto since 1956, it was changed from E. Pluribus Unum. It was not added to our money until 1972 because of the delay in producing new designs for the money. Before that it was not our motto. In 1955 we added "one nation under god" because of the red scare (fear of atheist communism). Prior to that it had no reference to a religious entity, and was secular (and used for secular purposes). You are correct it was written by a Babtist socialist minister, but it was designed to be used in schools, and was made secular for that specific purpose. Niether "under god" in the pledge (as taught in public schools) nor "in god we trust" on our national money is appropriate. This is a secular nation, founded specifically on freedom of religion which specifically DOES include freedom from religion. I've never heard of founding fathers being associated with the pledge, as it was written in the 1800s long after our founding fathers passed on. I am certain however, that none of them would have approved, as they almost all claimed that rabid religious people had no place in government. And that the seperation of church and state was an open attempt to prevent such a thing.
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Even if the currency does not have in print to whom I trust, IT is & always will be to God I trust. And as for me & mine, we DO pledge alegance. Do you really think of that stuff when you are paying $4.00 for a gallon of gas?
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I personally don't give care that the word god is on the money or in the pledge, I dont think its unconstitutional, I respect the people who argue against it because they do so because they want to fight Theocracy, but the battle shouldn't be over cosmetic issues - especially since its not Unconstitutional. There are more important fights, like keeping public school science education secular, how about the rights of same sex couples to get married. We can fight Theocracy where it needs to be fought. They don't listen to me they throw out the "slippery slope" nonsense. Over 150 years the word god on currency and still no theocracy.
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Did you not actually read your own links, or did you deliberately misquote them? Isn't that a little contradictory?
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Huh! I'm going to have to look that up about the motto on the money because the last articles I read said it was made the national motto and placed on currency in the late 50s. The Pledge I knew all about before I was on here. I admit I know more about the Pledge than the "In God We Trust", but I was very sure the source I looked at stated the 50s shortly after the Pledge bit. Well, this gives me a reason to look into it and check to make sure I've got the money part right. If I've been wrong about that all this time, I'd like to get it straight. Pretty hard for me to make a decent arguement for its removal if I don't have the history and facts right. I'll take a look into that and correct any further arguements on my part if you're right about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I knew about the Pledge already, but if I'm wrong about the currency, then thanks. Learning is constant for me and if I've learned I'm wrong, I'll be all too happy to correct it in future arguements.
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Yet another touted Christian error: http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2007/04/635/ now, which of the founding fathers was a Christian? You'll not find many! Besides, both sides are right - what is important is that the founders realized the dangers of running a country based on the Bible - Christians would do well to see the same dangers.
why can't you get the history surrounding it right? Why do you say "In God We Trust" has only been on money since 1950's? It has actually been on money since 1864 when it was put on coins by an Act of Congress in 1863 (making it on our money alot longer then our money was without it).& on paper money since 1935. http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html The pledge I have heard talk about the "Founding Fathers" & the pledge. No founding father wrote the Pledge it was written 1892. It did not even contain the words United States of America until the 1940's before that it was "I pledge allegiance to my flag" nor was it brought into schools until then. The under God was added in the 50's. But it is not like the pldge was ever suppose to be secular or governmental, it was written by a Baptist minister. http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm If it is SO important we have to hear about it all the time why don't you know the history around it? Actually already knew it I just figured the links might help. People keep repeating the same inaccurate stuff over and over. If I am going to HAVE to hear about it, I at least want to read accurate historical statements so I don't keep getting annoyed over it. I still will think it is a stupid thing to be upset over, but I won;t be annoyed at the inaccurate history. the demoiselle here is two questions and answers where it has been said twice about monney and the 50's in just the last two days http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgUp0kaJLwmpDFSivtH0Go7sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080508172024AAzP2dw&show=7#profile-info-JDZdPo21aa http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ai7GdnHTTExSQ9pqGmzukdbty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080507002310AAibFEg&show=7#profile-info-J09fTNETaa
Religion & Spirituality - 26 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
thanks for taking your time to look that up for everyone
2 :
And how do you know I didn't know the history?
3 :
since when do people say that "in god we trust" has been on money only since the '50s? i've only heard that said about the pledge.
4 :
I do know the history and have correctly stated it a number of times. It's still a violation of seperation of church and state.
5 :
I have never heard any atheist use either argument that you state. I could not care less. I use the cash because it's there and what choice do I have? The barter system just doesn't cut it in my town -- they will not trade me a gallon of gas for some home-made pork chops. I don't say the pledge. My kids don't either. None of it really matters. .
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I read 1956. For the pledge anyway. http://www.nonbeliever.org/images/CR102-13917.pdf
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I knew all of that before I read this question. None of that changes my opinion that the references to some god should be removed from both U.S. money and the pledge.
8 :
Thanks for the history lesson, now smother yourself in gravy.
9 :
I love strawmen.
10 :
it's not really important to me, i'm more interested in ridding the country of christofascism and fundamentalism
11 :
Yeah...I knew that. But you are still admitting that the founders didn't put it there, which points to their very proper intent. It should have never been added.
12 :
Why is it so important to Christians that you have to pair god with money?
13 :
If the bible is so important to you, why don't you read it? And one of the reason's religion is so dangerous is that it can be used as a weapon. If a government controls religion, they control people's feelings and morals, and that's dangerous. If a government uses religion to raise morale or gain support, it's just wrong. And in 1956 that's exactly what was done. And I don't care if a minister wrote the pledge of allegiance, if we teach our kids to say it, it must be secular. Religion should never be included in school, unless teaching about it in a history, english, or mythology class.
14 :
amen sister!
15 :
Actually, I've only seen Christians get the history wrong. Fun Fact: The pledge was written by a socialist to sell flags to schools and used to include a weird, almost Nazi-like salute, which was promptly removed in the 30's
16 :
Who Says its just atheists? I have no trust in the vile monster you would call "god" am i an atheist? No. We live in a secular nation. Church and state must therefore be separate for the dignity of all American Citizens. If you don't like that idea... Move to Iran.
17 :
I always thought that god was money.Benny Hinn and Jerry Fallswell and the rest did such a good job of making me believe it.The pledge of allegiance was used to unite the country,and sell flags.You did well.
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im pretty sure like 90% of atheists know that, trust me we use as ammunition against you guys all the time.
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I know the history around it, but thank you for the lecture anyway.
20 :
They don't get the history surrounding it because. The pledge and money mentions God. They do not believe in God there for. They do not believe in checking out history to know the facts and truths. Personal observation from being here in r&s. :-)
21 :
Actually "in god we trust" has only been our motto since 1956, it was changed from E. Pluribus Unum. It was not added to our money until 1972 because of the delay in producing new designs for the money. Before that it was not our motto. In 1955 we added "one nation under god" because of the red scare (fear of atheist communism). Prior to that it had no reference to a religious entity, and was secular (and used for secular purposes). You are correct it was written by a Babtist socialist minister, but it was designed to be used in schools, and was made secular for that specific purpose. Niether "under god" in the pledge (as taught in public schools) nor "in god we trust" on our national money is appropriate. This is a secular nation, founded specifically on freedom of religion which specifically DOES include freedom from religion. I've never heard of founding fathers being associated with the pledge, as it was written in the 1800s long after our founding fathers passed on. I am certain however, that none of them would have approved, as they almost all claimed that rabid religious people had no place in government. And that the seperation of church and state was an open attempt to prevent such a thing.
22 :
Even if the currency does not have in print to whom I trust, IT is & always will be to God I trust. And as for me & mine, we DO pledge alegance. Do you really think of that stuff when you are paying $4.00 for a gallon of gas?
23 :
I personally don't give care that the word god is on the money or in the pledge, I dont think its unconstitutional, I respect the people who argue against it because they do so because they want to fight Theocracy, but the battle shouldn't be over cosmetic issues - especially since its not Unconstitutional. There are more important fights, like keeping public school science education secular, how about the rights of same sex couples to get married. We can fight Theocracy where it needs to be fought. They don't listen to me they throw out the "slippery slope" nonsense. Over 150 years the word god on currency and still no theocracy.
24 :
Did you not actually read your own links, or did you deliberately misquote them? Isn't that a little contradictory?
25 :
Huh! I'm going to have to look that up about the motto on the money because the last articles I read said it was made the national motto and placed on currency in the late 50s. The Pledge I knew all about before I was on here. I admit I know more about the Pledge than the "In God We Trust", but I was very sure the source I looked at stated the 50s shortly after the Pledge bit. Well, this gives me a reason to look into it and check to make sure I've got the money part right. If I've been wrong about that all this time, I'd like to get it straight. Pretty hard for me to make a decent arguement for its removal if I don't have the history and facts right. I'll take a look into that and correct any further arguements on my part if you're right about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I knew about the Pledge already, but if I'm wrong about the currency, then thanks. Learning is constant for me and if I've learned I'm wrong, I'll be all too happy to correct it in future arguements.
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Yet another touted Christian error: http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2007/04/635/ now, which of the founding fathers was a Christian? You'll not find many! Besides, both sides are right - what is important is that the founders realized the dangers of running a country based on the Bible - Christians would do well to see the same dangers.
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